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	<description>Authentic Green Marketing &#38; Sustainable Product Development</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Wal-Mart and Green Product Marketing for 2009 by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/08/12/wal-mart-and-green-product-marketing-for-2009/#comment-3141</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Mary, at least some type of substantive data in a story that is concise and straightforward. Explaining perhaps the life cycle of the product from sourcing to manufacture, while including directions for proper disposal/etc.

This story doesn't have to be dry and scientific though, please. IMO, as marketers it is our job to capture readers' attention and make them want to feel positive affinity for the product, put it in their shopping basket, and if they like it, share their experience and make recommendations to others. All this while not being vague, overstating claims, and using subjective in-house nor uncredible 3rd party labels.

Reliable certified labels that are single- and multi-attribute (like SMaRT) would also be beneficial. I recognize that not everyone will perhaps notice such a label, however the jurisdiction on placement on the packaging (front, rear, side) and its prominence (size and visual distinction apart from other visual elements) really comes down to the design agency, manufacturer, and sometimes the retailer (in the case of private-label programs and with the mega dictation power of retail giants like Wal-Mart).

Let's see what the future holds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Mary, at least some type of substantive data in a story that is concise and straightforward. Explaining perhaps the life cycle of the product from sourcing to manufacture, while including directions for proper disposal/etc.</p>
<p>This story doesn&#8217;t have to be dry and scientific though, please. IMO, as marketers it is our job to capture readers&#8217; attention and make them want to feel positive affinity for the product, put it in their shopping basket, and if they like it, share their experience and make recommendations to others. All this while not being vague, overstating claims, and using subjective in-house nor uncredible 3rd party labels.</p>
<p>Reliable certified labels that are single- and multi-attribute (like SMaRT) would also be beneficial. I recognize that not everyone will perhaps notice such a label, however the jurisdiction on placement on the packaging (front, rear, side) and its prominence (size and visual distinction apart from other visual elements) really comes down to the design agency, manufacturer, and sometimes the retailer (in the case of private-label programs and with the mega dictation power of retail giants like Wal-Mart).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what the future holds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wal-Mart and Green Product Marketing for 2009 by Mary Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/08/12/wal-mart-and-green-product-marketing-for-2009/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the stories are backed up with numbers on a balanced format, we're good. Becoming certified by SMaRT Sustainable Product Standard would address all of the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the stories are backed up with numbers on a balanced format, we&#8217;re good. Becoming certified by SMaRT Sustainable Product Standard would address all of the issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Issues on Bottled Water &#038; Sustainability by Dave MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/08/10/on-bottled-water/#comment-3129</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's an interesting business problem for the category leaders but I really like where Brita has gone.  For $7 you can buy a Nalgene bottle with some Crystal Light packets inside as part of their filterforgood.com program.  

I was drinking a case of water ($4) and two 2.5 gallon jugs of water ($6) every two weeks because my tap water tastes terrible.  The Brita pitcher and the Nalgene bottle cost just under $40.  So over time it makes economic and environmental sense - and I don't have a lug home 10 lbs worth of water every time I shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting business problem for the category leaders but I really like where Brita has gone.  For $7 you can buy a Nalgene bottle with some Crystal Light packets inside as part of their filterforgood.com program.  </p>
<p>I was drinking a case of water ($4) and two 2.5 gallon jugs of water ($6) every two weeks because my tap water tastes terrible.  The Brita pitcher and the Nalgene bottle cost just under $40.  So over time it makes economic and environmental sense - and I don&#8217;t have a lug home 10 lbs worth of water every time I shop.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Issues on Bottled Water &#038; Sustainability by Mary Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/08/10/on-bottled-water/#comment-3117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tap water. I prefer to pay for my water once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tap water. I prefer to pay for my water once.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Green Packaging News Wrapup by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/08/08/packaging-news-july-08/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to thank all the authors behind these stories, as their writing and analysis go much deeper than the basic stories based on PR pitches and newswires. It is my sincerest hope that people can learn meaningfully learn about this field and the emerging opportunities available to manufacturers and 3rd party logistics providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to thank all the authors behind these stories, as their writing and analysis go much deeper than the basic stories based on PR pitches and newswires. It is my sincerest hope that people can learn meaningfully learn about this field and the emerging opportunities available to manufacturers and 3rd party logistics providers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does it Mean to Have a Sustainable Brand? by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/07/26/what-does-it-mean-to-have-a-sustainable-brand/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By: Jay.el
"So much effort is being put into appearing green - resources are wasted in the end..."

Reply:
"
@jay.el - yes, many efforts are being wasted. Primarily it's inappropriate image-based advertising and half-ass efforts like carbon offsetting. Cause-related marketing is a much better solution in absence of substantive internal improvement. The effort of appearing green can be good, IF there is substance behind the product's attributes and the company's operations. Investors should know how a company is performing on the CSR front, and from a financial perspective (where benefits may be attained). Secondly, consumers should be able to identify and vote with their dollars, what products provide the value proposition they're looking for AND happen to have green attributes."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By: Jay.el<br />
&#8220;So much effort is being put into appearing green - resources are wasted in the end&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Reply:<br />
&#8221;<br />
@jay.el - yes, many efforts are being wasted. Primarily it&#8217;s inappropriate image-based advertising and half-ass efforts like carbon offsetting. Cause-related marketing is a much better solution in absence of substantive internal improvement. The effort of appearing green can be good, IF there is substance behind the product&#8217;s attributes and the company&#8217;s operations. Investors should know how a company is performing on the CSR front, and from a financial perspective (where benefits may be attained). Secondly, consumers should be able to identify and vote with their dollars, what products provide the value proposition they&#8217;re looking for AND happen to have green attributes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does it Mean to Have a Sustainable Brand? by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/07/26/what-does-it-mean-to-have-a-sustainable-brand/#comment-2832</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some comments from another cross-posting I'd like to share:
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By Solarlife:
"mvellandi, thanks for encouraging us "What do YOU think? Well first what is a not sustainable or green product: A laptop computer with good energy rating, but no end of life 95% recycling rate, have a look to the LI-ION battery, recycling? Not green, people who sell you a Eco light bulb, but don't take it back for mercury recycling ( and if they throw it just in the garbidge)"

Reply:
"@solarlife - The 'sustainable-ness' of a product has to be scored. Because we're talking about a systems design with multiple parties though, a manufacturer's product can only be graded so far. For disposal of CFLs, there's either the local hazmat disposal facility, or there's IKEA and Home Depot (insert other retailer in case they have a program). Because of this situation, Paul Hawken and other environmentalists have called greater emphasis on products as services to be rented/leased, instead of owned, so that the burden of disposal isn't placed on the user."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some comments from another cross-posting I&#8217;d like to share:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
By Solarlife:<br />
&#8220;mvellandi, thanks for encouraging us &#8220;What do YOU think? Well first what is a not sustainable or green product: A laptop computer with good energy rating, but no end of life 95% recycling rate, have a look to the LI-ION battery, recycling? Not green, people who sell you a Eco light bulb, but don&#8217;t take it back for mercury recycling ( and if they throw it just in the garbidge)&#8221;</p>
<p>Reply:<br />
&#8220;@solarlife - The &#8217;sustainable-ness&#8217; of a product has to be scored. Because we&#8217;re talking about a systems design with multiple parties though, a manufacturer&#8217;s product can only be graded so far. For disposal of CFLs, there&#8217;s either the local hazmat disposal facility, or there&#8217;s IKEA and Home Depot (insert other retailer in case they have a program). Because of this situation, Paul Hawken and other environmentalists have called greater emphasis on products as services to be rented/leased, instead of owned, so that the burden of disposal isn&#8217;t placed on the user.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Climate Change - Dr. Gurminder Singh by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/07/28/on-climate-change-dr-gurminder-singh/#comment-2757</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, he was good. Honestly though Scott, I really wish there was more multi-dimensional data and discussion on the sources of climate change, apart from the meat industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he was good. Honestly though Scott, I really wish there was more multi-dimensional data and discussion on the sources of climate change, apart from the meat industry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Climate Change - Dr. Gurminder Singh by thecitizen</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/07/28/on-climate-change-dr-gurminder-singh/#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>thecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Singh is good...too bad you couldn't get the third panel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Singh is good&#8230;too bad you couldn&#8217;t get the third panel!</p>
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		<title>Comment on California Green Law News - July 08 by Mario Vellandi</title>
		<link>http://www.melodiesinmarketing.com/2008/07/28/california-green-law-news-july-08/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario Vellandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PackagingDiva JoAnn Hines ( &lt;a href="http://www.packaginguniversity.com/blog/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.packaginguniversity.com/blog/&lt;/a&gt; ) points out this article http://tinyurl.com/58m82t
by Geoffrey Moore on the PVC packaging bill.

My comment is that there is some validity to Mr. Moore's points. Plasticizers and elastomers are the agents that really make PVC based products dangerous to human health.

However, I'm not qualified at this point to consider end-of-life cycle best practices for PVC products and packaging. All I'd like to see is less packaging waste on retail shelves, in landfills, and in the ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PackagingDiva JoAnn Hines ( <a href="http://www.packaginguniversity.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.packaginguniversity.com/blog/</a> ) points out this article <a href="http://tinyurl.com/58m82t" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/58m82t</a><br />
by Geoffrey Moore on the PVC packaging bill.</p>
<p>My comment is that there is some validity to Mr. Moore&#8217;s points. Plasticizers and elastomers are the agents that really make PVC based products dangerous to human health.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not qualified at this point to consider end-of-life cycle best practices for PVC products and packaging. All I&#8217;d like to see is less packaging waste on retail shelves, in landfills, and in the ocean.</p>
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